understand how it felt when they had to take Peloo when they had to take Guadalanal when they had to take these islands for you that nobody gave a fuck about nobody even respected after do you know that bloody month of may on Okinawa there was a total disaster do you understand that these men that you are fucking praising or holding up the standards would have subjected you to such a hazing for being such a civilian for being such a fucking loser for being such a boy that you would even I mean you would never understand because that's the whole point. They don't let you be a soldier until they take your identity away. They destroy who you are to build you back up. Hey Jesse, don't let that happen to you. Jason did right by protecting him from that. When you wanted to join the military, he was like bro, please don't do that and I now understand why because it's been hard enough to rediscover myself without having been broken down first and that isn't to say that I wouldn't have more wealth or I wouldn't be a prouder man or I wouldn't have made my bed. I think Admiral McCraven has made a lot of bad choices, but some decent things. He's also said and those are the kinds of things that a person would probably not say if they were trying to fool you. It's the kinds of things that a serious man is almost trying to say to his son and that's admiral, I thank you for for speaking to me so candidly and and I I really absolutely loved your book. I preferred it to Jocko Willings, but I don't think that's because look, I think that's because you had a particular it's almost like you were speaking to your son and Jocko was speaking to another man and I wasn't yet one. So when I read extreme ownership or if I hope that's what it was called, it was like a Sephora catalogue. I was like, oh, this is show bode. I'm going to be exactly like this. I'm going to be such a strong little boy man, but the problem is that Jocko was describing the experience after boot camp he wasn't he never discussed the actual destruction of your personality. He never destruct you don't understand what it means to take away someone's me and then give something back to them and then they just like rebuild you from there and then it's like are you happy boy? You're a giant polar bear.